Town · Chieftaincies of the south and south-west, on the loose rein · as at first light, 1 January 1200

Thai Nguyen

The hill country north of the delta is where the kingdom's iron comes from, and the smiths' villages sit at the foot of it (board).

Thái Nguyên is the gate of the road north-east to Cao Bằng. The chiefs here are given Ly titles and Ly princesses and left alone. We recall a Dương house at Thái Nguyên in the early twelfth century but could not verify it, so we name no holder.

Who holds it

Title
Hereditary lords of Thái Nguyên holding Ly titles
Confidence
low

The campaign board entry notes only

Lord in 1200

A hereditary lord; not named.

What the town holds

  • Iron workings and forges
  • The road from Thăng Long to Cao Bằng
  • Rice floors on the Cầu and the Công

Communities

Smiths' villages; Tai-speaking hill folk; Viet settlers.

Walls and castle

A chief's seat; no wall known.

Trade and crafts

Iron and iron tools; forest goods; rice.

Places of note

  • Thai Nguyen: Seat

Where the sources disagree

Evidence: The campaign board entry notes only.

"The campaign board" is OMNIA's working map. These notes record where its earlier claims were checked against the sources.

Primary sources for Chiefs of the south-west

Chronicles, registers, sagas and inscriptions written in or near 1200 that cover this entry. Each has its own page with editions, translations and where to read it.

Sources and studies

  1. OMNIA board notes for the Vietnam and Champa area (a lead, not a source)

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