Thiers

Who he is

Name

the house of Thiers (a Guy of Thiers; the Guy VII who later marries Marquise of Forez is probably the next generation); the individual is not pinned

Title

Lord or viscount of Thiers

Since

not pinned

Born

not pinned

Family

Old Auvergne house that once inherited the county of Chalon; Agnes of Thiers, wife of Humbert IV of Beaujeu, carried Montpensier to the Beaujeu

Confidence

low

fr.wikipedia Guigues III de Forez and Guichard IV de Beaujeu (family links only)

Overlord

Not pinned (the count of Auvergne, the bishop of Clermont or the king)

What it holds

• the castle and town of Thiers
• the Durolle valley up toward the Forez hills

How it was acquired

Ancient family holding.

Allies and rivals

Kin of the Beaujeu (Montpensier) and the Forez.

How things stand that morning

Held by the family; the individual is not pinned.

Wealth

The road toll between Clermont and Lyon; the Durolle mills.

Military

Thiers castle.

Places of note

• Thiers castle: seat

Where the sources disagree

Evidence: No dated source for the lord in 1200 was found.

On the map: Core only.

Primary sources for Held of the king

Chronicles, registers, sagas and inscriptions written in or near 1200 that cover this entry. Each has its own page with editions, translations and where to read it.

• Chronicle of Andres, William of Andres (about 1220 to 1234). The chronicle and cartulary of a small abbey between Guines and Ardres, near the border of Flanders and Boulogne. Read online
• Chronicle of Hainaut, Gislebert of Mons (about 1195 to 1196). Ends in 1195, so it has no 1200 entries, but it is the indispensable background for Flanders and Hainaut: the career of Count Baldwin V of Hainaut (VIII of Flanders), his union of the two counties, the settlement with Philip over Artois, the rights, castles, fiefs and vassals of Hainaut listed by a man who ran its chancery, and the youth of Baldwin IX, who held both counties in 1200. Read online
• Chronicles of Saint-Martial of Limoges, Bernard Itier and other monks of Saint-Martial; Geoffrey of Vigeois for the earlier chronicle (Geoffrey's chronicle to 1184; Bernard Itier's notes about 1195 to 1225). Bernard Itier, librarian of Saint-Martial, kept dated notes through 1200 of what reached Limoges: Richard's death at Chalus in 1199, the viscounts of Limoges and the lords of the Limousin, John's passage through Aquitaine in 1200 and the affairs of Angouleme and the Lusignans, and the abbey's own elections and prices. Read online
• The Great Chronicle of Tours, Anonymous (a canon of Saint-Martin of Tours) (about 1227). The Loire valley's view of the Angevin succession. Read online
• Universal Chronicle of the Anonymous of Laon, Anonymous (an English-born canon of Laon) (about 1219). A Picard chronicle whose author had lived in England and keeps an eye on both kingdoms. Read online
• Deeds of Philip Augustus, Rigord (about 1186 to 1206, in stages). The French court's own chronicle for the year, from the monk of Saint-Denis who called himself the king's chronographer. Read online
• Deeds of Philip Augustus; The Philippide, William the Breton (Guillaume le Breton) (Gesta about 1214 to 1220; Philippide 1214 to 1224). William abridged Rigord for the years before 1207 and then continued him, so for 1200 the Gesta is a shortened Rigord with a few added touches: the Le Goulet settlement, Blanche's marriage, and the interdict. Read online
• History of the Counts of Guines, Lambert of Ardres (about 1196 to 1203, unfinished). A house history of the counts of Guines and lords of Ardres, written while Count Baldwin II and his son Arnold were alive and finishing in 1203. Read online

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