Hereditary lords · Chieftaincies of the south and south-west, on the loose rein · as at first light, 1 January 1200

The chiefs of Thai Nguyen

The hill country north of the delta is where the kingdom's iron comes from, and the smiths' villages sit at its foot.

The Ly gave the chiefs here titles and princesses. We recall a Duong house at Thai Nguyen in the early twelfth century, but we did not find it in anything we could open, so we name no holder.

Who he is

Name
not known for 1200 (the Dương house held it earlier, by our recollection, not checked)
Title
Hereditary lords of Thái Nguyên
Confidence
low

The campaign board entry notes only

What it holds

  • Iron workings and forges
  • The road from Thang Long to Cao Bang
  • Rice floors on the Cau and the Cong

Threats

  • Strong court pressure for iron (unlikely)

Places of note

  • Thai Nguyen: Seat

Where the sources disagree

Evidence: The campaign board entry notes only.

"The campaign board" is OMNIA's working map. These notes record where its earlier claims were checked against the sources.

Primary sources for Chiefs of the south-west

Chronicles, registers, sagas and inscriptions written in or near 1200 that cover this entry. Each has its own page with editions, translations and where to read it.

Sources and studies

  1. OMNIA board notes for the Vietnam and Champa area (a lead, not a source)

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