Country, circuit or people · Chieftaincies of the south and south-west, on the loose rein · as at first light, 1 January 1200

Thai Nguyen

The hill country north of the delta from which the kingdom's iron comes, with the smiths' villages at its foot (board).

Hereditary lords hold Ly titles and Ly princesses. Rice floors on the Cầu and the Công, and the road north-east to Cao Bằng.

Who holds it

Name
not known for 1200
Title
Hereditary lords of Thái Nguyên
Confidence
low

Board

Overlord

The king.

Wealth

Iron and iron tools, rice.

Places of note

  • Thai Nguyen: Seat

Where the sources disagree

Evidence: The campaign board entry description and a polygon built from modern districts; nothing in our sources dates the unit to 1200.

"The campaign board" is OMNIA's working map. These notes record where its earlier claims were checked against the sources.

On the map: A union of modern districts standing for the country; the real edge was not a line (a raiding belt or a day's walk of hills).

Primary sources for Chiefs of the south-west

Chronicles, registers, sagas and inscriptions written in or near 1200 that cover this entry. Each has its own page with editions, translations and where to read it.

Sources and studies

  1. OMNIA board notes for the Vietnam and Champa area (a lead, not a source)

Last revised 4 November 2026. Published 4 November 2026. Suggest a correction on the OMNIA Discord.