Other lordship · Self-governing peoples of South China · as at first light, 1 January 1200

Songpan tribes

The high grass valleys round Songzhou, the Tang Songzhou long lost, now country of Tibetan herders and Qiang villages with little contact with the Song.

The place name Songpan belongs to the Ming; in 1200 there is no Song post, no town the Song would call a town, and the tribes meet the Song at Maozhou and Longzhou.

Who he is

Title
The chiefs of the Songzhou valleys
Since
not pinned
Born
not known
Family
not known
Confidence
low

No chief is named in any source we have.

Overlord

No ruler. The Song name Songzhou but hold nothing there.

What it holds

  • Songzhou and its valleys
  • The Jiuzhai valleys to the north-west (not pinned)

How it was acquired

Hereditary.

Allies and rivals

Trade with Maozhou and Longzhou; feuds.

How things stand that morning

No known incident. The ground is on the Tibet map by the ownership rule; it is written here because the assignment names Songpan.

Wealth

Herds, furs, musk.

Military

Mounted herdsmen; no numbers.

Threats

  • Famine in a hard winter.

Where the sources disagree

Evidence: The Songshi's Manyi chapters (recalled, not re-read) name the Qiang, Tibetan and Man groups of the Sichuan edge, but no chief of 1200 is known to me. The record says what kind of power it is and where, and nothing more.

On the map: Very rough; the evidence is thin.

Sources and studies

  1. Songshi juan 496-497 (Manyi 4-5), the Lizhou, Yazhou, Maozhou, Weizhou and Luzhou peoples: recalled, NOT re-read
  2. OMNIA board, notes_scc.txt (a lead, not a source)

Last revised 4 November 2026. Published 4 November 2026. Suggest a correction on the OMNIA Discord.